1 00:00:11,509 --> 00:00:08,790 good afternoon and welcome to today's 2 00:00:13,749 --> 00:00:11,519 special spacex 3 post launch news 3 00:00:16,230 --> 00:00:13,759 conference after the launch of falcon 9 4 00:00:18,950 --> 00:00:16,240 and dragon we wanted to get together and 5 00:00:20,870 --> 00:00:18,960 and talk about how well the day went we 6 00:00:23,109 --> 00:00:20,880 are pleased today to be joined 7 00:00:25,109 --> 00:00:23,119 first by elon musk 8 00:00:27,269 --> 00:00:25,119 the chief executive officer and founder 9 00:00:29,990 --> 00:00:27,279 of spacex 10 00:00:31,669 --> 00:00:30,000 nasa's associate administrator for human 11 00:00:35,190 --> 00:00:31,679 exploration and operations mission 12 00:00:39,270 --> 00:00:37,110 and hans kunigsman 13 00:00:40,470 --> 00:00:39,280 the spacex vice president of mission 14 00:00:42,549 --> 00:00:40,480 assurance 15 00:00:45,029 --> 00:00:42,559 and we'll begin with opening remarks 16 00:00:45,990 --> 00:00:45,039 first we'll start in california with mr 17 00:00:47,910 --> 00:00:46,000 musk 18 00:00:48,869 --> 00:00:47,920 go ahead please 19 00:00:50,549 --> 00:00:48,879 sure 20 00:00:52,310 --> 00:00:50,559 so it looks like the 21 00:00:54,069 --> 00:00:52,320 everything looks great as far as the 22 00:00:55,430 --> 00:00:54,079 ascent phase of the mission 23 00:00:58,229 --> 00:00:55,440 and uh 24 00:01:00,389 --> 00:00:58,239 the so the rocket flight was um as 25 00:01:02,389 --> 00:01:00,399 perfect as far as we could tell 26 00:01:06,390 --> 00:01:02,399 and dragon deploy went well 27 00:01:11,510 --> 00:01:08,870 we had some some slight uh 28 00:01:13,590 --> 00:01:11,520 um initial challenges with with dragon 29 00:01:14,870 --> 00:01:13,600 but with respect to enabling some of the 30 00:01:17,190 --> 00:01:14,880 thruster quads but those have been 31 00:01:19,030 --> 00:01:17,200 resolved so looks like everything's good 32 00:01:21,510 --> 00:01:19,040 on on the dragon front 33 00:01:23,749 --> 00:01:21,520 uh for 34 00:01:25,910 --> 00:01:23,759 the rocket boost stage reentry 35 00:01:26,950 --> 00:01:25,920 we have good data 36 00:01:28,070 --> 00:01:26,960 down 37 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:28,080 to 38 00:01:36,230 --> 00:01:33,520 mach 1.1 everything looks fine and we're 39 00:01:38,390 --> 00:01:36,240 awaiting additional data to see how the 40 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:38,400 potential landing bone went but we have 41 00:01:42,550 --> 00:01:40,799 a it was a very heavy sea state 42 00:01:44,630 --> 00:01:42,560 condition so i would give i wouldn't 43 00:01:45,990 --> 00:01:44,640 give high odds that the 44 00:01:50,469 --> 00:01:46,000 rocket was able to splash down 45 00:01:55,030 --> 00:01:53,270 okay um mr gerstenmaier 46 00:01:57,350 --> 00:01:55,040 thanks mike again i'd like to 47 00:01:59,590 --> 00:01:57,360 congratulate the spacex team on a 48 00:02:01,350 --> 00:01:59,600 tremendous launch today 49 00:02:03,350 --> 00:02:01,360 they did a lot of great work last night 50 00:02:04,950 --> 00:02:03,360 getting ready to to get the rocket ready 51 00:02:06,630 --> 00:02:04,960 to go fly 52 00:02:08,389 --> 00:02:06,640 with the weather conditions it was kind 53 00:02:10,469 --> 00:02:08,399 of sporty for them to figure out exactly 54 00:02:12,470 --> 00:02:10,479 when the right time to load the vehicle 55 00:02:14,630 --> 00:02:12,480 and get it ready and keep options open 56 00:02:16,949 --> 00:02:14,640 and and they just did a tremendous job i 57 00:02:18,790 --> 00:02:16,959 would say the entire nasa payloads team 58 00:02:20,470 --> 00:02:18,800 as well as the spacex team did a 59 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:20,480 tremendous job of getting ready to do 60 00:02:23,670 --> 00:02:22,080 the late load they did it early so then 61 00:02:25,350 --> 00:02:23,680 that allowed them the option of picking 62 00:02:26,869 --> 00:02:25,360 the right time to roll out with all the 63 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:26,879 phase two lightning warnings that were 64 00:02:30,710 --> 00:02:29,040 coming and going throughout the night so 65 00:02:31,990 --> 00:02:30,720 thanks to their efforts we got a launch 66 00:02:33,509 --> 00:02:32,000 attempt today and the weather happened 67 00:02:35,509 --> 00:02:33,519 to be good at lunch time and we got a 68 00:02:37,750 --> 00:02:35,519 good launch so again congratulations to 69 00:02:39,509 --> 00:02:37,760 the spacex team for showing that can-do 70 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:39,519 attitude and and going that extra mile 71 00:02:43,750 --> 00:02:41,760 to really work hard to get things ready 72 00:02:45,589 --> 00:02:43,760 on board space station we're ready uh 73 00:02:47,509 --> 00:02:45,599 for the dragon arrival that the crew 74 00:02:48,869 --> 00:02:47,519 actually reported and talked to mike a 75 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:48,879 little bit and said they actually got to 76 00:02:52,150 --> 00:02:50,400 see the launch so that's pretty exciting 77 00:02:54,309 --> 00:02:52,160 when our crew gets to see the launch out 78 00:02:56,550 --> 00:02:54,319 of florida so that was encouraging 79 00:02:58,790 --> 00:02:56,560 the multiplexer onboard space station 80 00:03:00,869 --> 00:02:58,800 the repairs of that spare device are 81 00:03:02,630 --> 00:03:00,879 ready so we're ready for the eva next or 82 00:03:04,949 --> 00:03:02,640 the eva next week to go change that 83 00:03:06,869 --> 00:03:04,959 external mdm so we're looking forward to 84 00:03:08,390 --> 00:03:06,879 all the research coming up on dragon 85 00:03:10,149 --> 00:03:08,400 tremendous things we got to see nice 86 00:03:12,309 --> 00:03:10,159 video of the two payloads in the trunk 87 00:03:14,390 --> 00:03:12,319 got to see the h dev and the 88 00:03:15,830 --> 00:03:14,400 and the optical communication package in 89 00:03:18,070 --> 00:03:15,840 the trunk it's pretty cool seeing those 90 00:03:19,589 --> 00:03:18,080 on orbit seeing them in the trunk and 91 00:03:20,949 --> 00:03:19,599 it'll be really exciting to see them on 92 00:03:22,790 --> 00:03:20,959 station and actually operating and 93 00:03:24,229 --> 00:03:22,800 bringing data back to us so i look 94 00:03:25,830 --> 00:03:24,239 forward to all this research that's 95 00:03:28,149 --> 00:03:25,840 going on in station the crews are doing 96 00:03:29,750 --> 00:03:28,159 a great job things are going well and i 97 00:03:31,670 --> 00:03:29,760 really want to congratulate the spacex 98 00:03:33,589 --> 00:03:31,680 team for just a wonderful day today 99 00:03:35,190 --> 00:03:33,599 getting ready and keeping our show open 100 00:03:38,070 --> 00:03:35,200 options open they did really really 101 00:03:40,390 --> 00:03:38,080 great so thank you hans yeah um that 102 00:03:42,869 --> 00:03:40,400 both teams both here and at the cape and 103 00:03:44,630 --> 00:03:42,879 beckham hawthorne worked 104 00:03:46,630 --> 00:03:44,640 very hard over the last couple days to 105 00:03:48,630 --> 00:03:46,640 to get the vehicle ready and then last 106 00:03:51,350 --> 00:03:48,640 night of course we had uh we had to deal 107 00:03:53,509 --> 00:03:51,360 with weather mostly today um where there 108 00:03:54,550 --> 00:03:53,519 was our primary concern 109 00:03:56,789 --> 00:03:54,560 um 110 00:03:58,149 --> 00:03:56,799 everything worked very beautiful in the 111 00:04:01,110 --> 00:03:58,159 end uh 112 00:04:03,030 --> 00:04:01,120 we got we got a beautiful launch and uh 113 00:04:05,509 --> 00:04:03,040 we got some some really pretty video 114 00:04:07,350 --> 00:04:05,519 from from orbit it's uh it's really good 115 00:04:09,990 --> 00:04:07,360 day 116 00:04:12,550 --> 00:04:10,000 okay thank you we'll take questions now 117 00:04:14,070 --> 00:04:12,560 uh and uh because we have mr musk on the 118 00:04:15,910 --> 00:04:14,080 phone we want to make sure that you make 119 00:04:18,150 --> 00:04:15,920 sure that you address to whom your 120 00:04:19,909 --> 00:04:18,160 question goes please state your name and 121 00:04:22,790 --> 00:04:19,919 affiliation and wait for the microphone 122 00:04:24,629 --> 00:04:22,800 and let's start with marcia dunn 123 00:04:26,950 --> 00:04:24,639 marcia done associated press probably 124 00:04:28,870 --> 00:04:26,960 for mr musk 125 00:04:30,550 --> 00:04:28,880 sort of a light question um i'm 126 00:04:32,629 --> 00:04:30,560 wondering i know spacex has the 127 00:04:34,550 --> 00:04:32,639 tradition of putting uh surprises and 128 00:04:36,230 --> 00:04:34,560 gifts on board i'm wondering if there's 129 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:36,240 anything in the way of chocolate easter 130 00:04:40,830 --> 00:04:38,320 eggs bunnies anything like that given 131 00:04:43,270 --> 00:04:40,840 that you'll be arriving on easter 132 00:04:45,430 --> 00:04:43,280 morning um 133 00:04:47,110 --> 00:04:45,440 i i you know i 134 00:04:48,950 --> 00:04:47,120 don't know of anything joe hunts do we 135 00:04:52,790 --> 00:04:48,960 have anything on on the 136 00:04:59,110 --> 00:04:56,230 nasa's uh our customer here so i mean we 137 00:05:01,909 --> 00:04:59,120 deferred it to nasa you know as to what 138 00:05:05,350 --> 00:05:01,919 cargo has manifested um 139 00:05:09,590 --> 00:05:05,360 so um yeah i i don't think we 140 00:05:12,790 --> 00:05:10,870 and i yeah know of anything it's a 141 00:05:16,469 --> 00:05:12,800 surprise and it'll be a surprise for all 142 00:05:18,710 --> 00:05:17,590 um 143 00:05:20,550 --> 00:05:18,720 we're we're a little too late in the 144 00:05:22,230 --> 00:05:20,560 launch so it won't i have not been 145 00:05:23,909 --> 00:05:22,240 briefed of anything uniquely that it's 146 00:05:25,590 --> 00:05:23,919 flying it but i wouldn't be surprised if 147 00:05:27,189 --> 00:05:25,600 there isn't something there but i don't 148 00:05:28,950 --> 00:05:27,199 know the details of what the teams may 149 00:05:30,790 --> 00:05:28,960 have loaded yeah 150 00:05:32,870 --> 00:05:30,800 we i know the scientific cargo i don't 151 00:05:34,550 --> 00:05:32,880 know the other person so i'm sorry 152 00:05:36,310 --> 00:05:34,560 nothing from spacex that you know of 153 00:05:39,029 --> 00:05:36,320 hans okay fine 154 00:05:41,590 --> 00:05:39,039 irene thanks um irene klotz uh with 155 00:05:43,110 --> 00:05:41,600 reuters for um ilan um when you said 156 00:05:44,310 --> 00:05:43,120 that uh you give high odds that the 157 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:44,320 rocket was able to splash down 158 00:05:49,029 --> 00:05:46,800 successfully do you mean in one piece 159 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:49,039 no sorry i i wasn't speaking clearly i 160 00:05:53,189 --> 00:05:51,600 said i wouldn't give high odds so 161 00:05:55,350 --> 00:05:53,199 um the 162 00:05:57,110 --> 00:05:55,360 i i mean i 163 00:06:00,230 --> 00:05:57,120 that the sea state is quite heavy i mean 164 00:06:02,150 --> 00:06:00,240 i heard reports of 15 to 20 foot uh wave 165 00:06:04,070 --> 00:06:02,160 height so it's really pretty pretty 166 00:06:05,430 --> 00:06:04,080 crazy out there in fact the boats 167 00:06:08,710 --> 00:06:05,440 weren't even able to get 168 00:06:10,309 --> 00:06:08,720 particularly close because of of the 169 00:06:11,990 --> 00:06:10,319 heavy seas 170 00:06:14,070 --> 00:06:12,000 so 171 00:06:16,790 --> 00:06:14,080 i think it's going to be it's unlikely 172 00:06:21,670 --> 00:06:16,800 that the rocket was able to 173 00:06:24,230 --> 00:06:21,680 splash down successfully but i think um 174 00:06:27,510 --> 00:06:24,240 we'll still get good data uh 175 00:06:28,950 --> 00:06:27,520 from uh the the plane telemetry 176 00:06:31,909 --> 00:06:28,960 and we should get that pretty soon as 177 00:06:33,430 --> 00:06:31,919 soon as we are able to 178 00:06:35,830 --> 00:06:33,440 look at that data we'll be able to 179 00:06:37,590 --> 00:06:35,840 provide some more information 180 00:06:40,469 --> 00:06:37,600 but i would consider it a success in the 181 00:06:43,990 --> 00:06:40,479 sense that we were able to control the 182 00:06:46,710 --> 00:06:44,000 boost stage to a zero zero roll rate 183 00:06:49,749 --> 00:06:46,720 which is previously what has destroyed 184 00:06:50,710 --> 00:06:49,759 the stages is an uncontrolled a role 185 00:06:52,870 --> 00:06:50,720 where the 186 00:06:54,230 --> 00:06:52,880 uh on-board uh nitrogen thrusters 187 00:06:56,390 --> 00:06:54,240 weren't able to 188 00:06:59,510 --> 00:06:56,400 overcome the aerodynamic torque and so 189 00:07:01,510 --> 00:06:59,520 sort of spun up um and this time with 190 00:07:03,510 --> 00:07:01,520 with more powerful thrusters 191 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:03,520 and more um 192 00:07:07,830 --> 00:07:06,160 nitrogen propellant we were able to 193 00:07:10,629 --> 00:07:07,840 to null the roll rate so that's that's a 194 00:07:11,990 --> 00:07:10,639 good a bit of good news there 195 00:07:13,589 --> 00:07:12,000 and of course we 196 00:07:15,670 --> 00:07:13,599 were able to show that 197 00:07:18,070 --> 00:07:15,680 on ascent that the legs 198 00:07:20,550 --> 00:07:18,080 don't have any negative impact and that 199 00:07:22,790 --> 00:07:20,560 we're able to come back through 200 00:07:23,909 --> 00:07:22,800 uh through hypersonic velocity not we 201 00:07:25,430 --> 00:07:23,919 don't yet have the data through 202 00:07:27,510 --> 00:07:25,440 transonic but 203 00:07:30,469 --> 00:07:27,520 we have it through the the max 204 00:07:31,830 --> 00:07:30,479 dynamic um 205 00:07:34,309 --> 00:07:31,840 you know max dynamic four is coming 206 00:07:35,830 --> 00:07:34,319 through the mac what's called max q we 207 00:07:37,670 --> 00:07:35,840 have the information of the rocket 208 00:07:38,950 --> 00:07:37,680 making it through max q okay 209 00:07:43,510 --> 00:07:38,960 um 210 00:07:45,830 --> 00:07:43,520 to to find that out and it'll be 211 00:07:48,070 --> 00:07:45,840 awesome if as far as it gets that that 212 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:48,080 that data will be able to use and 213 00:07:51,350 --> 00:07:49,440 uh 214 00:07:52,550 --> 00:07:51,360 flow back into into the 215 00:07:55,029 --> 00:07:52,560 next flight 216 00:07:57,350 --> 00:07:55,039 with an increased probability of a 217 00:07:58,390 --> 00:07:57,360 successful recovery 218 00:08:00,710 --> 00:07:58,400 so we're going to have to probably 219 00:08:02,309 --> 00:08:00,720 iterate our way our way there i think i 220 00:08:03,670 --> 00:08:02,319 should mention whether one of the sort 221 00:08:05,749 --> 00:08:03,680 of side point is 222 00:08:08,469 --> 00:08:05,759 that we did we did a 223 00:08:11,189 --> 00:08:08,479 longer coast and restart of the upper 224 00:08:12,710 --> 00:08:11,199 stage so this is a very sort of optional 225 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:12,720 thing 226 00:08:18,550 --> 00:08:15,280 just to to see what our propelled 227 00:08:21,110 --> 00:08:18,560 residuals were and what the 228 00:08:23,749 --> 00:08:21,120 environments would be on the stage 229 00:08:25,670 --> 00:08:23,759 you know during a 230 00:08:27,670 --> 00:08:25,680 depletion shutdown 231 00:08:28,790 --> 00:08:27,680 and the upper stage coasted for about 35 232 00:08:31,670 --> 00:08:28,800 minutes 233 00:08:33,029 --> 00:08:31,680 and then restarted for a few seconds 234 00:08:35,750 --> 00:08:33,039 and went to 235 00:08:39,190 --> 00:08:35,760 to essentially zero liquid oxygen level 236 00:08:41,350 --> 00:08:39,200 with about 0.15 percent of propellant 237 00:08:42,949 --> 00:08:41,360 mass and fuel remaining which is very 238 00:08:45,269 --> 00:08:42,959 close to our target so 239 00:08:48,310 --> 00:08:45,279 that that's helpful for us to 240 00:08:52,230 --> 00:08:49,829 essentially to reduce the uncertainty 241 00:08:54,389 --> 00:08:52,240 associated with propellant residuals 242 00:08:56,790 --> 00:08:54,399 and thus improve the the mission 243 00:08:59,509 --> 00:08:56,800 performance margin calculation on on 244 00:09:00,790 --> 00:08:59,519 future missions 245 00:09:05,750 --> 00:09:00,800 rob 246 00:09:08,630 --> 00:09:05,760 i guess for elon um you mentioned uh 247 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:08,640 having some challenges with the quads 248 00:09:12,550 --> 00:09:10,800 um can you go into a little more detail 249 00:09:16,310 --> 00:09:12,560 and i think you have a burn coming up 250 00:09:17,590 --> 00:09:16,320 pretty soon will you be doing that burn 251 00:09:19,910 --> 00:09:17,600 um well i mean right now i'm on the 252 00:09:21,750 --> 00:09:19,920 phone so uh i 253 00:09:23,110 --> 00:09:21,760 when i left about 254 00:09:24,310 --> 00:09:23,120 15 minutes ago everything was looking 255 00:09:25,750 --> 00:09:24,320 good 256 00:09:28,230 --> 00:09:25,760 and 257 00:09:29,829 --> 00:09:28,240 there was um 258 00:09:30,710 --> 00:09:29,839 an isolation valve 259 00:09:33,670 --> 00:09:30,720 that 260 00:09:35,750 --> 00:09:33,680 feeds two of the 261 00:09:36,710 --> 00:09:35,760 thruster 262 00:09:39,110 --> 00:09:36,720 and 263 00:09:41,509 --> 00:09:39,120 that that valve was was not responding 264 00:09:43,030 --> 00:09:41,519 so we went to the 265 00:09:44,230 --> 00:09:43,040 the backup valve and that that one 266 00:09:46,150 --> 00:09:44,240 worked fine 267 00:09:47,430 --> 00:09:46,160 so 268 00:09:49,910 --> 00:09:47,440 when i left 269 00:09:52,230 --> 00:09:49,920 everything was looking good for 270 00:09:53,350 --> 00:09:52,240 you know all thrusters enabled on on the 271 00:09:54,710 --> 00:09:53,360 vehicle 272 00:09:56,470 --> 00:09:54,720 so 273 00:10:00,710 --> 00:09:56,480 as far as i know the we're on track to 274 00:10:05,430 --> 00:10:02,790 hi elon this is stephen clark with space 275 00:10:07,430 --> 00:10:05,440 flight now just a question looking ahead 276 00:10:08,710 --> 00:10:07,440 for the rest of the year with the 277 00:10:10,069 --> 00:10:08,720 trouble getting 278 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:10,079 this rocket off 279 00:10:14,310 --> 00:10:12,800 over the last few weeks 280 00:10:15,269 --> 00:10:14,320 does this affect how many launches you 281 00:10:17,269 --> 00:10:15,279 planned for the rest of the year i 282 00:10:18,550 --> 00:10:17,279 believe it was 10 total 283 00:10:20,470 --> 00:10:18,560 before this 284 00:10:24,790 --> 00:10:20,480 and 285 00:10:26,150 --> 00:10:24,800 the the thruster pod issue is it related 286 00:10:31,269 --> 00:10:26,160 at all to the 287 00:10:34,230 --> 00:10:32,389 uh 288 00:10:36,949 --> 00:10:34,240 so i mean i think we think we can 289 00:10:38,310 --> 00:10:36,959 probably still do 10 but um it's 290 00:10:40,069 --> 00:10:38,320 probably it's a bit too early to tell if 291 00:10:41,190 --> 00:10:40,079 all 10 will occur this year 292 00:10:44,550 --> 00:10:41,200 um 293 00:10:48,310 --> 00:10:44,560 the uh the the the main constraint is 294 00:10:49,190 --> 00:10:48,320 actually on vehicle production uh which 295 00:10:50,069 --> 00:10:49,200 uh 296 00:10:54,150 --> 00:10:50,079 and 297 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:54,160 particular part which is an injector 298 00:10:58,069 --> 00:10:56,160 casting 299 00:11:01,509 --> 00:10:58,079 and we we think we've resolved that 300 00:11:02,630 --> 00:11:01,519 particular issue which should unlock 301 00:11:03,990 --> 00:11:02,640 the 302 00:11:05,110 --> 00:11:04,000 you know quite a high rate of boost 303 00:11:06,470 --> 00:11:05,120 production 304 00:11:08,790 --> 00:11:06,480 um 305 00:11:09,829 --> 00:11:08,800 and uh yeah so bottom line is that i 306 00:11:11,269 --> 00:11:09,839 think 307 00:11:13,509 --> 00:11:11,279 we will 308 00:11:14,470 --> 00:11:13,519 do 10 or something very close to 10 this 309 00:11:16,630 --> 00:11:14,480 year 310 00:11:18,710 --> 00:11:16,640 uh you searched obviously it's a launch 311 00:11:21,509 --> 00:11:18,720 month um slightly better than launch 312 00:11:21,519 --> 00:11:25,190 and then 313 00:11:29,990 --> 00:11:26,710 we don't get know enough to say whether 314 00:11:31,350 --> 00:11:30,000 there's any commonality between this 315 00:11:33,590 --> 00:11:31,360 uh 316 00:11:35,030 --> 00:11:33,600 this particular valve and the 317 00:11:37,990 --> 00:11:35,040 valve issue and the one that occurred 318 00:11:41,590 --> 00:11:40,310 i don't think it's the same but you know 319 00:11:42,630 --> 00:11:41,600 it's always 320 00:11:51,430 --> 00:11:42,640 i 321 00:11:52,470 --> 00:11:51,440 same but we don't yet know 322 00:11:53,750 --> 00:11:52,480 okay we're going to take one more 323 00:11:55,269 --> 00:11:53,760 question here before we go to the 324 00:11:58,470 --> 00:11:55,279 telephone bridge and then we'll come 325 00:12:01,590 --> 00:11:58,480 back for uh follow-up questions bill uh 326 00:12:03,190 --> 00:12:01,600 bill harwich cbs news for mr musk um 327 00:12:05,110 --> 00:12:03,200 technical stuff aside i'm just wondering 328 00:12:06,389 --> 00:12:05,120 how you're feeling this is the third crs 329 00:12:08,069 --> 00:12:06,399 mission it's off the ground to a good 330 00:12:09,190 --> 00:12:08,079 start you've got a pretty good string 331 00:12:10,949 --> 00:12:09,200 going what are your what are your 332 00:12:12,389 --> 00:12:10,959 personal thoughts is uh 333 00:12:15,269 --> 00:12:12,399 i realize the mission's not over but i 334 00:12:17,829 --> 00:12:15,279 mean at this point anyway thanks 335 00:12:20,550 --> 00:12:17,839 um i'm feeling pretty excited and this 336 00:12:22,870 --> 00:12:20,560 is a happy day um i mean most important 337 00:12:24,389 --> 00:12:22,880 of all uh is that 338 00:12:26,629 --> 00:12:24,399 you know that 339 00:12:27,509 --> 00:12:26,639 we did a good job for nasa i mean 340 00:12:30,389 --> 00:12:27,519 the 341 00:12:31,350 --> 00:12:30,399 number one thing do we do a job for our 342 00:12:33,670 --> 00:12:31,360 customer 343 00:12:34,870 --> 00:12:33,680 so you know that's you know everything 344 00:12:36,629 --> 00:12:34,880 else is like 345 00:12:38,470 --> 00:12:36,639 secondary to that so 346 00:12:39,829 --> 00:12:38,480 i'm just glad we're able to 347 00:12:41,590 --> 00:12:39,839 to you know 348 00:12:43,670 --> 00:12:41,600 do the job of a contract for or at least 349 00:12:45,670 --> 00:12:43,680 thus far we're doing it 350 00:12:47,750 --> 00:12:45,680 maybe it hasn't get docked with the 351 00:12:49,990 --> 00:12:47,760 space station but um 352 00:12:53,030 --> 00:12:50,000 number one i'm super happy that we have 353 00:12:53,910 --> 00:12:53,040 made good progress so far in 354 00:12:56,790 --> 00:12:53,920 you know 355 00:12:58,069 --> 00:12:56,800 for for our nasa customers so 356 00:12:59,750 --> 00:12:58,079 and then 357 00:13:01,910 --> 00:12:59,760 on top of that i'm also excited that we 358 00:13:03,030 --> 00:13:01,920 got 359 00:13:04,949 --> 00:13:03,040 good data 360 00:13:06,949 --> 00:13:04,959 through 361 00:13:09,509 --> 00:13:06,959 max dynamic pressure the 362 00:13:11,110 --> 00:13:09,519 of of the re-entry of the boost stage 363 00:13:13,030 --> 00:13:11,120 and even though we probably won't get 364 00:13:15,350 --> 00:13:13,040 the stage back i think we're really 365 00:13:18,629 --> 00:13:15,360 starting to put the connect the dots of 366 00:13:20,310 --> 00:13:18,639 what's needed uh when you combine the 367 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:20,320 takeover overlanding yesterday of the 368 00:13:24,470 --> 00:13:21,680 flight design 369 00:13:25,269 --> 00:13:24,480 uh landing legs um 370 00:13:27,509 --> 00:13:25,279 and 371 00:13:30,470 --> 00:13:27,519 the greater progress 372 00:13:34,949 --> 00:13:32,389 on this flight today 373 00:13:37,509 --> 00:13:34,959 i mean there's just only a few more dots 374 00:13:38,790 --> 00:13:37,519 that needs to be there to have it all 375 00:13:40,790 --> 00:13:38,800 all work 376 00:13:42,310 --> 00:13:40,800 um and i think that 377 00:13:44,389 --> 00:13:42,320 that that i think it's i think we've got 378 00:13:46,310 --> 00:13:44,399 a decent chance of bringing a stage back 379 00:13:48,150 --> 00:13:46,320 this year which is which would be 380 00:13:49,910 --> 00:13:48,160 wonderful 381 00:13:53,269 --> 00:13:49,920 because i think what we've done thus far 382 00:13:54,629 --> 00:13:53,279 is is evolutionary 383 00:13:56,150 --> 00:13:54,639 evolutionary improvements but but that 384 00:13:58,790 --> 00:13:56,160 holds the potential for something more 385 00:14:01,990 --> 00:14:00,069 all right let's go to the telephone 386 00:14:04,310 --> 00:14:02,000 bridge and start off with alan boyle 387 00:14:06,069 --> 00:14:04,320 alan 388 00:14:07,189 --> 00:14:06,079 hi i guess this would be for elon or 389 00:14:09,030 --> 00:14:07,199 hans 390 00:14:11,590 --> 00:14:09,040 some people had remarked about a dark 391 00:14:13,670 --> 00:14:11,600 plume that that rose up along the side 392 00:14:14,949 --> 00:14:13,680 of the rocket 393 00:14:17,430 --> 00:14:14,959 during launch 394 00:14:21,829 --> 00:14:17,440 was that any concern uh what was going 395 00:14:24,710 --> 00:14:22,870 yeah 396 00:14:26,230 --> 00:14:24,720 i i mean i know what happened but hans 397 00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:26,240 you weren't doing anything i i actually 398 00:14:29,829 --> 00:14:28,240 don't know either i i think i heard 399 00:14:31,189 --> 00:14:29,839 people say that but i don't know what 400 00:14:32,790 --> 00:14:31,199 the root cause is at this point in time 401 00:14:33,670 --> 00:14:32,800 it could have been water 402 00:14:35,990 --> 00:14:33,680 um 403 00:14:38,790 --> 00:14:36,000 yeah that's uh so i i i thought that 404 00:14:41,189 --> 00:14:38,800 question might be asked so i um looked 405 00:14:41,990 --> 00:14:41,199 into it and and uh 406 00:14:46,629 --> 00:14:42,000 we 407 00:14:48,790 --> 00:14:46,639 all around the pad um and 408 00:14:52,550 --> 00:14:48,800 we essentially what happens is we splash 409 00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:54,870 so a little embarrassing but 410 00:14:58,949 --> 00:14:55,839 no harm 411 00:15:02,230 --> 00:15:00,150 okay uh 412 00:15:04,949 --> 00:15:02,240 still on the phone uh dan leone from 413 00:15:06,150 --> 00:15:04,959 space news dan 414 00:15:08,870 --> 00:15:06,160 hi everybody thanks for having the 415 00:15:10,870 --> 00:15:08,880 conference call um i guess one for nasa 416 00:15:12,550 --> 00:15:10,880 and one for spacex can we just get a 417 00:15:15,509 --> 00:15:12,560 sanity check about when rendezvous and 418 00:15:16,389 --> 00:15:15,519 proxima proc operations are supposed to 419 00:15:18,710 --> 00:15:16,399 start 420 00:15:19,670 --> 00:15:18,720 from nasa and sort of a big picture 421 00:15:22,870 --> 00:15:19,680 question 422 00:15:24,790 --> 00:15:22,880 on reusability uh how far down the road 423 00:15:27,670 --> 00:15:24,800 as far as you know doing some back of 424 00:15:29,590 --> 00:15:27,680 the napkin calculations have you gotten 425 00:15:31,670 --> 00:15:29,600 to see whether 426 00:15:33,990 --> 00:15:31,680 the cheapest way to increase launch 427 00:15:37,509 --> 00:15:34,000 rates and have inexpensive launches is 428 00:15:39,509 --> 00:15:37,519 really to fly a stages back refurb them 429 00:15:40,790 --> 00:15:39,519 refuel them and send them back up versus 430 00:15:41,910 --> 00:15:40,800 you know maybe just trying to make a 431 00:15:43,910 --> 00:15:41,920 dent 432 00:15:46,389 --> 00:15:43,920 in the manufacturing side or something 433 00:15:48,150 --> 00:15:46,399 like this 434 00:15:49,990 --> 00:15:48,160 i'll start off with the rendezvous 435 00:15:51,670 --> 00:15:50,000 question basically 436 00:15:53,430 --> 00:15:51,680 the burn got delayed a little bit the 437 00:15:55,189 --> 00:15:53,440 burn actually wasn't required but it 438 00:15:57,030 --> 00:15:55,199 won't affect the overall rendezvous 439 00:15:58,470 --> 00:15:57,040 sequence it'll still be on sunday pretty 440 00:16:00,150 --> 00:15:58,480 much as it's planned there may be a 441 00:16:01,430 --> 00:16:00,160 couple minutes of movement but not very 442 00:16:03,269 --> 00:16:01,440 much it's really set on lighting 443 00:16:05,590 --> 00:16:03,279 conditions so all the rendezvous stuff 444 00:16:07,269 --> 00:16:05,600 that we had planned will be pretty much 445 00:16:08,629 --> 00:16:07,279 as it's been published pre-flight this 446 00:16:15,350 --> 00:16:08,639 is just some minor changes and you'll 447 00:16:19,350 --> 00:16:17,269 so uh george to answer the question of 448 00:16:21,189 --> 00:16:19,360 like what is roof reflect likely to do 449 00:16:23,749 --> 00:16:21,199 um is that 450 00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:23,759 which 451 00:16:27,110 --> 00:16:25,759 just let me to give it context for 452 00:16:29,990 --> 00:16:27,120 example parts of the shuttle were 453 00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:30,000 reusable and the shuttle was impressive 454 00:16:32,870 --> 00:16:31,600 although i don't think anyone would 455 00:16:34,870 --> 00:16:32,880 argue that it was particularly 456 00:16:37,030 --> 00:16:34,880 inexpensive 457 00:16:38,790 --> 00:16:37,040 uh true uh so 458 00:16:40,949 --> 00:16:38,800 there is a um 459 00:16:43,350 --> 00:16:40,959 a step beyond simply reusing something 460 00:16:45,189 --> 00:16:43,360 that is important uh what's or some 461 00:16:46,949 --> 00:16:45,199 conditions on reuse in order to make the 462 00:16:49,269 --> 00:16:46,959 reuse um 463 00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:49,279 have a a big effect on the space 464 00:16:54,550 --> 00:16:52,079 industry which is that the reuse must be 465 00:16:55,430 --> 00:16:54,560 both rapid and complete 466 00:16:57,509 --> 00:16:55,440 um 467 00:16:59,269 --> 00:16:57,519 like an aircraft or a car or something 468 00:17:01,030 --> 00:16:59,279 like that 469 00:17:02,629 --> 00:17:01,040 if you have to disassemble and 470 00:17:04,870 --> 00:17:02,639 reassemble a car and change a bunch of 471 00:17:06,309 --> 00:17:04,880 parts in between driving it would make 472 00:17:07,590 --> 00:17:06,319 it quite expensive 473 00:17:09,990 --> 00:17:07,600 um 474 00:17:13,590 --> 00:17:11,750 we don't it's true that we don't just 475 00:17:16,470 --> 00:17:13,600 have to recover it we have to show that 476 00:17:19,669 --> 00:17:16,480 it can be reflown 477 00:17:21,189 --> 00:17:19,679 quickly and and easily with i said 478 00:17:22,470 --> 00:17:21,199 but the only change with the only thing 479 00:17:25,189 --> 00:17:22,480 changing being 480 00:17:27,669 --> 00:17:25,199 um reloading propellant um and another 481 00:17:29,190 --> 00:17:27,679 expensive you know 482 00:17:32,549 --> 00:17:29,200 basically 483 00:17:33,990 --> 00:17:32,559 the equivalent of refueling so 484 00:17:35,830 --> 00:17:34,000 um 485 00:17:37,830 --> 00:17:35,840 now the vehicle is is sort of designed 486 00:17:39,029 --> 00:17:37,840 for that um 487 00:17:40,710 --> 00:17:39,039 you know the unfortunate thing with the 488 00:17:42,549 --> 00:17:40,720 shuttle was that the the original design 489 00:17:44,390 --> 00:17:42,559 for the shuttle was 490 00:17:45,750 --> 00:17:44,400 um like 491 00:17:47,590 --> 00:17:45,760 well well sort of 492 00:17:49,590 --> 00:17:47,600 fairly well suited for 493 00:17:51,590 --> 00:17:49,600 a good reuse but then 494 00:17:54,390 --> 00:17:51,600 the requirements changed and made it 495 00:17:56,470 --> 00:17:54,400 very difficult to to reuse uh 496 00:17:58,230 --> 00:17:56,480 efficiently 497 00:18:00,070 --> 00:17:58,240 and 498 00:18:01,430 --> 00:18:00,080 you know so as long as we were able to 499 00:18:03,110 --> 00:18:01,440 hold to 500 00:18:04,549 --> 00:18:03,120 our our requirements i think we will be 501 00:18:07,190 --> 00:18:04,559 able to achieve the 502 00:18:08,789 --> 00:18:07,200 rapid and and essentially complete reuse 503 00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:08,799 um 504 00:18:13,270 --> 00:18:11,440 and uh so what i'm hoping will occur is 505 00:18:14,870 --> 00:18:13,280 and i'm feeling a little bit more 506 00:18:18,310 --> 00:18:14,880 optimistic about it is that this year at 507 00:18:19,830 --> 00:18:18,320 least we will recover the rocket booster 508 00:18:22,470 --> 00:18:19,840 i'm not sure we'll be able to re-fly it 509 00:18:23,909 --> 00:18:22,480 this year but i i think um re-flying it 510 00:18:26,710 --> 00:18:23,919 next year is 511 00:18:27,830 --> 00:18:26,720 is um is likely if we recover it this 512 00:18:28,950 --> 00:18:27,840 year 513 00:18:31,430 --> 00:18:28,960 and 514 00:18:32,870 --> 00:18:31,440 then you know that that'll 515 00:18:35,669 --> 00:18:32,880 complete the picture at least as far as 516 00:18:37,590 --> 00:18:35,679 the boost stage is concerned 517 00:18:41,990 --> 00:18:37,600 okay our next question is from michael 518 00:18:46,390 --> 00:18:43,909 hi there a question for elon i'm 519 00:18:47,350 --> 00:18:46,400 wondering how far down range 520 00:18:50,150 --> 00:18:47,360 the 521 00:18:52,230 --> 00:18:50,160 field was maybe off and 522 00:18:55,430 --> 00:18:52,240 how far downrange from the cape on 523 00:18:59,669 --> 00:18:57,029 uh sorry but it was a bit hard to hear i 524 00:19:01,510 --> 00:18:59,679 think you said how far down range 525 00:19:05,669 --> 00:19:01,520 um 526 00:19:07,110 --> 00:19:05,679 i think it's uh 527 00:19:09,510 --> 00:19:07,120 it's about four or 500 kilometers 528 00:19:11,830 --> 00:19:09,520 downrange um 529 00:19:13,029 --> 00:19:11,840 away from the cape essentially um 530 00:19:15,270 --> 00:19:13,039 and then 531 00:19:20,789 --> 00:19:15,280 the nearest shore is uh 532 00:19:25,750 --> 00:19:22,549 and that's at main engine cut-off or 533 00:19:27,350 --> 00:19:25,760 re-entry or both that's where that's 534 00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:27,360 sort of the normal 535 00:19:35,110 --> 00:19:33,830 which it was headed for i should mention 536 00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:35,120 that it was 537 00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:36,960 headed quite precisely for the the 538 00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:46,070 okay the next question is from rand 539 00:20:00,390 --> 00:19:58,310 because hopefully we'll have the 540 00:20:02,230 --> 00:20:00,400 aircraft telemetry that i'd like to look 541 00:20:06,230 --> 00:20:02,240 at so i'll just be on for another two 542 00:20:10,470 --> 00:20:07,350 okay um 543 00:20:13,029 --> 00:20:10,480 let's try miriam cramer miriam 544 00:20:15,669 --> 00:20:13,039 hey um yeah miriam famer with space.com 545 00:20:18,549 --> 00:20:15,679 uh so i have one question for spacex and 546 00:20:21,750 --> 00:20:18,559 another for nasa um and i'm wondering 547 00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:21,760 uh for elon i think were the multiple 548 00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:24,240 delays um challenging i mean was this 549 00:20:28,390 --> 00:20:26,880 kind of a test uh for the team just 550 00:20:31,110 --> 00:20:28,400 having to push it back and push it back 551 00:20:33,990 --> 00:20:31,120 and push it back um and then i'm for for 552 00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,000 nasa i'm curious does this mean um that 553 00:20:40,070 --> 00:20:36,240 the orbital launch is officially put off 554 00:20:43,909 --> 00:20:42,710 well i mean from the spacex we 555 00:20:45,270 --> 00:20:43,919 yeah 556 00:20:48,470 --> 00:20:45,280 there was there were a fair bit of new 557 00:20:50,549 --> 00:20:48,480 things with this rocket and with the 558 00:20:52,470 --> 00:20:50,559 dragon avionics this was actually quite 559 00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:52,480 a substantial revision of dragon 560 00:20:55,990 --> 00:20:54,320 avionics for example and a new software 561 00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:56,000 that accompanied it and of course the 562 00:20:58,870 --> 00:20:57,280 rocket had the 563 00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:58,880 landing legs 564 00:21:03,510 --> 00:21:01,039 and improved nitrogen thrusters and a 565 00:21:05,669 --> 00:21:03,520 few other things so 566 00:21:07,430 --> 00:21:05,679 uh it was definitely just definitely not 567 00:21:09,830 --> 00:21:07,440 our you know in the future we want to 568 00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:09,840 try to get to 569 00:21:12,789 --> 00:21:10,799 launching 570 00:21:13,909 --> 00:21:12,799 exactly on time without any delays 571 00:21:14,950 --> 00:21:13,919 um 572 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:14,960 and 573 00:21:21,190 --> 00:21:20,080 having delays that's not our aspiration 574 00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:21,200 but i think the team 575 00:21:24,789 --> 00:21:23,360 did do a great job of responding to the 576 00:21:26,549 --> 00:21:24,799 various issues 577 00:21:28,710 --> 00:21:26,559 and i'm certainly very proud of what 578 00:21:30,630 --> 00:21:28,720 they've done 579 00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:30,640 yeah i think another thing to consider 580 00:21:33,990 --> 00:21:32,400 is space station is a pretty tough thing 581 00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:34,000 to do the rendezvous with when we look 582 00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:35,919 at all the constraints because we had 583 00:21:39,270 --> 00:21:37,520 you know progress flights coming up 584 00:21:41,590 --> 00:21:39,280 we've got some eva 585 00:21:43,110 --> 00:21:41,600 activities coming up pretty quickly 586 00:21:45,190 --> 00:21:43,120 we've got the 587 00:21:47,270 --> 00:21:45,200 soyuz landing and soyuz launch cycle 588 00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:47,280 coming up so and then we have to watch 589 00:21:51,029 --> 00:21:49,039 the dragon landing and the dragon 590 00:21:52,710 --> 00:21:51,039 landing has to be again set by orbital 591 00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:52,720 mechanics and where space station is and 592 00:21:56,149 --> 00:21:54,720 when you undock and where you put the 593 00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:56,159 dragon with respect to the coast of 594 00:21:59,830 --> 00:21:58,480 california that's another constraint so 595 00:22:01,990 --> 00:21:59,840 you put all those together and that 596 00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:02,000 makes space station flights even tougher 597 00:22:05,590 --> 00:22:03,600 from a manifesting standpoint so it's 598 00:22:06,870 --> 00:22:05,600 not only the hardware and the weather 599 00:22:08,149 --> 00:22:06,880 and the normal things with the rocket 600 00:22:10,470 --> 00:22:08,159 but then you've got all these unique 601 00:22:12,870 --> 00:22:10,480 phasing things that that play in and 602 00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:12,880 that makes it a pretty tough scenario to 603 00:22:17,029 --> 00:22:15,039 get a good launch 604 00:22:18,789 --> 00:22:17,039 together and make it work so the team 605 00:22:20,390 --> 00:22:18,799 again working last night to protect 606 00:22:21,830 --> 00:22:20,400 today's option was tremendously 607 00:22:24,950 --> 00:22:21,840 important to us that that really worked 608 00:22:26,789 --> 00:22:24,960 out well to your question about orbital 609 00:22:28,149 --> 00:22:26,799 because i'm superstitious we'll probably 610 00:22:30,390 --> 00:22:28,159 continue to ask orbital to keep 611 00:22:32,070 --> 00:22:30,400 preparing for may 6 until we get dragon 612 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:32,080 safely 613 00:22:35,750 --> 00:22:34,320 attached to station and birth but once 614 00:22:37,669 --> 00:22:35,760 dragon becomes 615 00:22:39,750 --> 00:22:37,679 safely attached and birthed on sunday 616 00:22:41,350 --> 00:22:39,760 then we'll release the orbital team but 617 00:22:42,950 --> 00:22:41,360 i think until then we'll ask orbital 618 00:22:44,710 --> 00:22:42,960 still protect till may and then after 619 00:22:46,149 --> 00:22:44,720 that that birthing occurs we'll then 620 00:22:49,029 --> 00:22:46,159 release the orbital team and let them 621 00:22:50,710 --> 00:22:49,039 move into the june time frame 622 00:22:54,230 --> 00:22:50,720 our next question on the phone is from 623 00:23:00,950 --> 00:22:54,240 joseph abbott 624 00:23:02,789 --> 00:23:00,960 first i was going to ask if you have a 625 00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:02,799 date set now for the orbcom launch 626 00:23:06,149 --> 00:23:04,159 coming up 627 00:23:09,029 --> 00:23:06,159 and i was going to als i was also 628 00:23:11,590 --> 00:23:09,039 wanting to know if you could tell me 629 00:23:14,390 --> 00:23:11,600 how many more tests on the f9 or 630 00:23:16,310 --> 00:23:14,400 development vehicle at mcgregor before 631 00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:16,320 it moves on to spaceport america and new 632 00:23:19,990 --> 00:23:18,640 mexico 633 00:23:21,190 --> 00:23:20,000 for elon 634 00:23:22,230 --> 00:23:21,200 sure i'll 635 00:23:23,830 --> 00:23:22,240 answer that question then i'm gonna have 636 00:23:25,270 --> 00:23:23,840 to jump for the call 637 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:25,280 um 638 00:23:31,510 --> 00:23:29,200 so let's see so for the ovcom launch is 639 00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:31,520 expected to to happen in the next four 640 00:23:34,950 --> 00:23:33,360 to six weeks um 641 00:23:37,029 --> 00:23:34,960 and uh you know 642 00:23:38,950 --> 00:23:37,039 we want to obviously make sure we review 643 00:23:40,230 --> 00:23:38,960 carefully the data from this launch 644 00:23:41,909 --> 00:23:40,240 because although i mean everything went 645 00:23:43,269 --> 00:23:41,919 fine but we always review the data to 646 00:23:45,430 --> 00:23:43,279 see if there were any 647 00:23:47,909 --> 00:23:45,440 near-miss issues that need to be looked 648 00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:47,919 into and corrected 649 00:23:51,190 --> 00:23:49,279 we don't know of anything yet but we 650 00:23:54,710 --> 00:23:51,200 want to make sure of that and 651 00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:54,720 then uh regarding the f9r um 652 00:23:57,110 --> 00:23:56,080 we're going to have 653 00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:57,120 uh 654 00:24:01,590 --> 00:23:58,559 really 655 00:24:04,870 --> 00:24:01,600 we're going to keep doing tests um at a 656 00:24:07,750 --> 00:24:04,880 mcgregor test site near waco 657 00:24:09,029 --> 00:24:07,760 with the f9r stage this so what we have 658 00:24:14,470 --> 00:24:09,039 at uh 659 00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:16,630 what's called fnr dev1 which is sort of 660 00:24:21,190 --> 00:24:19,360 developing unit one there's dev2 661 00:24:23,350 --> 00:24:21,200 um and 662 00:24:25,110 --> 00:24:23,360 so one of those will be at uh 663 00:24:28,549 --> 00:24:25,120 mcgregor one of them will be at uh 664 00:24:31,190 --> 00:24:28,559 spaceport america in new mexico 665 00:24:33,510 --> 00:24:31,200 and so so anything we can test at a 666 00:24:36,149 --> 00:24:33,520 relatively low altitude 667 00:24:37,669 --> 00:24:36,159 so below around ten thousand feet uh 668 00:24:41,269 --> 00:24:37,679 we'll continue to do 669 00:24:43,510 --> 00:24:41,279 um in uh in mcgregor uh and and then the 670 00:24:46,630 --> 00:24:43,520 the high altitude stuff where it's going 671 00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:46,640 extra atmospheric and um you know going 672 00:24:50,390 --> 00:24:48,159 going to sort of 673 00:24:51,190 --> 00:24:50,400 300 000 feet plus and that kind of thing 674 00:24:52,870 --> 00:24:51,200 will 675 00:24:55,750 --> 00:24:52,880 um we'll be doing in mexico because we 676 00:24:57,510 --> 00:24:55,760 just need a much bigger clear area 677 00:24:59,190 --> 00:24:57,520 um but i would expect those those tests 678 00:25:01,110 --> 00:24:59,200 to be we will continue refining the 679 00:25:02,310 --> 00:25:01,120 technology over time 680 00:25:03,669 --> 00:25:02,320 because 681 00:25:04,789 --> 00:25:03,679 we had further question that was asked 682 00:25:06,630 --> 00:25:04,799 earlier 683 00:25:08,470 --> 00:25:06,640 you know reusability 684 00:25:12,230 --> 00:25:08,480 only matters to the degree that to agree 685 00:25:13,510 --> 00:25:12,240 that it's rapid and complete 686 00:25:15,269 --> 00:25:13,520 otherwise 687 00:25:17,029 --> 00:25:15,279 it's sort of reusability but you don't 688 00:25:18,230 --> 00:25:17,039 you don't get the equivalent economic 689 00:25:20,470 --> 00:25:18,240 benefit that 690 00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,480 that has uh you know huge 691 00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,240 huge potential to to open up space 692 00:25:26,789 --> 00:25:24,240 flight 693 00:25:28,390 --> 00:25:26,799 all right thanks for the question 694 00:25:30,390 --> 00:25:28,400 all right mr bus thank you for being 695 00:25:33,110 --> 00:25:30,400 with us uh we'll try one more 696 00:25:34,630 --> 00:25:33,120 time for rand simberg on the telephone 697 00:25:37,190 --> 00:25:34,640 rand are you there 698 00:25:41,430 --> 00:25:39,590 go ahead with your question please 699 00:25:46,070 --> 00:25:41,440 yeah if elon's still available because 700 00:25:49,269 --> 00:25:47,269 i'm assuming that you're going to try 701 00:25:52,789 --> 00:25:49,279 another water landing uh you're not 702 00:25:54,149 --> 00:25:52,799 going to attempt land uh on on any on 703 00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:54,159 the next one i don't get this question 704 00:25:57,510 --> 00:25:56,000 did you get enough data to give you 705 00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:57,520 confidence that you can fly back to land 706 00:25:59,750 --> 00:25:58,559 or you're going to try it in the water 707 00:26:01,590 --> 00:25:59,760 again and 708 00:26:03,430 --> 00:26:01,600 how much of a setback is it that you 709 00:26:04,789 --> 00:26:03,440 still haven't actually recovered a stage 710 00:26:07,110 --> 00:26:04,799 to see how much wear you're actually 711 00:26:08,310 --> 00:26:07,120 getting on it 712 00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:08,320 unfortunately 713 00:26:11,190 --> 00:26:10,080 he had to hang up i don't know hans if 714 00:26:13,430 --> 00:26:11,200 you would be able to address the 715 00:26:16,390 --> 00:26:13,440 question or not i i can hear i think um 716 00:26:18,070 --> 00:26:16,400 that the next vehicle is going to try a 717 00:26:21,750 --> 00:26:18,080 water landing again 718 00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:21,760 um and honestly i think the data are 719 00:26:25,990 --> 00:26:24,960 at this point in time really what we're 720 00:26:27,190 --> 00:26:26,000 after 721 00:26:29,190 --> 00:26:27,200 um 722 00:26:30,870 --> 00:26:29,200 and and that gives us the the clues to 723 00:26:33,669 --> 00:26:30,880 to make the uh 724 00:26:35,510 --> 00:26:33,679 uh any changes or like 725 00:26:37,510 --> 00:26:35,520 allows us to to continue this 726 00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:37,520 development so i i would say 727 00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:39,520 um we didn't 728 00:26:43,350 --> 00:26:41,200 as i said earlier you know we didn't 729 00:26:45,510 --> 00:26:43,360 really expect those the stages to to 730 00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:45,520 come back you know or we had you know 731 00:26:50,830 --> 00:26:48,159 some hope of course but um overall i 732 00:26:53,430 --> 00:26:50,840 think the data is uh much more important 733 00:26:54,390 --> 00:26:53,440 here okay we're back in the room uh 734 00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:54,400 jason 735 00:27:01,110 --> 00:26:58,799 this question goes to hans and i have 736 00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:01,120 another one um 737 00:27:04,070 --> 00:27:02,640 while it's true you didn't get the 738 00:27:05,750 --> 00:27:04,080 landing you might have wanted did you 739 00:27:07,430 --> 00:27:05,760 see anything in the telemetry data that 740 00:27:09,590 --> 00:27:07,440 said okay we're on the right track here 741 00:27:11,110 --> 00:27:09,600 or perhaps maybe something that made you 742 00:27:13,029 --> 00:27:11,120 want to rethink something else sunlight 743 00:27:14,870 --> 00:27:13,039 could you talk a bit about that so from 744 00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:14,880 what i saw basically in the in the 745 00:27:17,830 --> 00:27:16,720 control room and uh and then on the 746 00:27:20,070 --> 00:27:17,840 video 747 00:27:21,990 --> 00:27:20,080 it looked uh it looked great it looked 748 00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:22,000 uh like it's doing what it's supposed to 749 00:27:25,909 --> 00:27:24,559 do um however there's data on top of 750 00:27:27,430 --> 00:27:25,919 that that that i haven't seen yet 751 00:27:30,070 --> 00:27:27,440 they're either on the boat or on the 752 00:27:31,669 --> 00:27:30,080 airplane and we need to we need those 753 00:27:33,669 --> 00:27:31,679 data to come back first and then put 754 00:27:35,430 --> 00:27:33,679 them together and see if you can get the 755 00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,440 uh the full picture basically from 756 00:27:40,950 --> 00:27:38,000 liftoff to to uh reentry and and 757 00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:40,960 possibly as far as possible into landing 758 00:27:43,430 --> 00:27:42,000 so 759 00:27:45,269 --> 00:27:43,440 and this was kind of off topic from the 760 00:27:46,630 --> 00:27:45,279 day but the other day uh gwen shotwell 761 00:27:48,710 --> 00:27:46,640 was here and the announcement was made 762 00:27:50,789 --> 00:27:48,720 that lc39a would be used for falcon 763 00:27:52,070 --> 00:27:50,799 heavy and that we expect to see the 764 00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:52,080 first launch in the first quarter of 765 00:27:55,110 --> 00:27:53,600 2015. 766 00:27:57,269 --> 00:27:55,120 my question goes that perhaps this has 767 00:27:58,630 --> 00:27:57,279 already been answered but up until then 768 00:27:59,590 --> 00:27:58,640 i believe the understanding was the 769 00:28:01,590 --> 00:27:59,600 first launch would occur out of 770 00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:01,600 vandenberg is that now change to where 771 00:28:05,269 --> 00:28:02,960 the first launch will take place in 772 00:28:08,630 --> 00:28:05,279 kennedy instead of vandenberg 773 00:28:12,789 --> 00:28:10,710 okay james 774 00:28:14,549 --> 00:28:12,799 uh james dean florida today hanzon so i 775 00:28:16,389 --> 00:28:14,559 just want to clarify a couple of details 776 00:28:18,470 --> 00:28:16,399 the uh the boats i understand weren't 777 00:28:21,110 --> 00:28:18,480 able to get close uh 778 00:28:23,269 --> 00:28:21,120 so far today but you are still trying to 779 00:28:24,470 --> 00:28:23,279 get out there and and find the booster 780 00:28:26,149 --> 00:28:24,480 or is there no point in doing that 781 00:28:28,389 --> 00:28:26,159 anymore it depends on the c-state and 782 00:28:29,990 --> 00:28:28,399 and and i i heard that the c-state is 783 00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,000 really um it's really pretty rough right 784 00:28:34,149 --> 00:28:32,240 now i'm pretty sure if they think it's 785 00:28:36,549 --> 00:28:34,159 safe then they will um you know move 786 00:28:38,149 --> 00:28:36,559 towards the stage and uh and take a look 787 00:28:39,590 --> 00:28:38,159 um also i don't know what the airplane 788 00:28:41,669 --> 00:28:39,600 saw um 789 00:28:43,510 --> 00:28:41,679 those those those 790 00:28:45,430 --> 00:28:43,520 data and news basically come back in a 791 00:28:46,230 --> 00:28:45,440 couple hours 792 00:28:48,549 --> 00:28:46,240 and the 793 00:28:49,990 --> 00:28:48,559 the source of the telemetry that you're 794 00:28:51,909 --> 00:28:50,000 talking about getting back is that the 795 00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:51,919 nasa aircraft or where is that coming 796 00:28:54,470 --> 00:28:53,360 from no this is a 797 00:28:57,269 --> 00:28:54,480 spacex 798 00:29:00,470 --> 00:28:59,190 just curious of the detail what what was 799 00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:00,480 flying up there because nasa was also 800 00:29:03,669 --> 00:29:01,919 tracking it uh cursed as well uh i'm 801 00:29:06,149 --> 00:29:03,679 just curious what was up there tracking 802 00:29:07,909 --> 00:29:06,159 yeah we were gonna have a p3 go fly and 803 00:29:09,830 --> 00:29:07,919 our intent was to take a look at the 804 00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:09,840 supersonic thruster firings that would 805 00:29:13,510 --> 00:29:11,440 occur and we wanted the data because 806 00:29:15,510 --> 00:29:13,520 that's applicable to mars entry descent 807 00:29:17,269 --> 00:29:15,520 landing we were unable to fly the 808 00:29:19,990 --> 00:29:17,279 aircraft because of icing conditions so 809 00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:20,000 we did not fly our p3 aircraft so it was 810 00:29:24,710 --> 00:29:22,080 a spacex aircraft that that captured 811 00:29:26,070 --> 00:29:24,720 telemetry that hans is talking about so 812 00:29:27,830 --> 00:29:26,080 we didn't get a chance to fly our 813 00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:27,840 aircraft okay 814 00:29:31,750 --> 00:29:28,880 and and 815 00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:31,760 data so far did it show uh 816 00:29:34,950 --> 00:29:33,200 or would it have shown if the landing 817 00:29:36,310 --> 00:29:34,960 lags did deploy or is that something 818 00:29:38,230 --> 00:29:36,320 that would come later 819 00:29:40,230 --> 00:29:38,240 that that's typically so the data we 820 00:29:41,590 --> 00:29:40,240 have right now at this arrow basically 821 00:29:44,310 --> 00:29:41,600 is the data that we got here from 822 00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:44,320 telford from from the range and and the 823 00:29:47,830 --> 00:29:46,240 range loses it goes over the horizon 824 00:29:51,590 --> 00:29:47,840 basically for the range 825 00:29:56,870 --> 00:29:52,549 bill 826 00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:56,880 can you clarify for me the the 827 00:30:00,549 --> 00:29:58,799 provisioning situation on station in the 828 00:30:01,909 --> 00:30:00,559 skip cycle and how all that plays out i 829 00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:01,919 was confused the other day when mr 830 00:30:05,830 --> 00:30:04,240 suffered any was talking to us about 831 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:05,840 where your marks are out there for 832 00:30:08,789 --> 00:30:07,679 getting stuff up 833 00:30:11,430 --> 00:30:08,799 yeah i think 834 00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:11,440 the way we if we take no consumables 835 00:30:17,430 --> 00:30:14,480 resupply for a period of time um 836 00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:17,440 it i think we run into a skip cycle 837 00:30:21,669 --> 00:30:20,000 number which is like 45 days before we 838 00:30:23,029 --> 00:30:21,679 run out of critical consumables and i 839 00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:23,039 think food is one of the things that 840 00:30:26,950 --> 00:30:25,039 comes in roughly in the july time frame 841 00:30:29,029 --> 00:30:26,960 july august of this summer 842 00:30:30,789 --> 00:30:29,039 when we get spacex on board that'll push 843 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:30,799 that date into the fall when we get 844 00:30:36,789 --> 00:30:32,320 orbital on board it'll even push it 845 00:30:41,029 --> 00:30:38,950 yeah it starts so then that's kind of 846 00:30:42,389 --> 00:30:41,039 the way we do that is we want to prepare 847 00:30:43,909 --> 00:30:42,399 if we have to bring the crew on because 848 00:30:45,430 --> 00:30:43,919 we're running out of supplies right 849 00:30:47,190 --> 00:30:45,440 that's the beginning of the clock that 850 00:30:48,950 --> 00:30:47,200 says we start preparing so we actually 851 00:30:51,909 --> 00:30:48,960 draw a line 852 00:30:53,750 --> 00:30:51,919 it's like the low uh low fuel light on 853 00:30:55,510 --> 00:30:53,760 your car right you still got quite a 854 00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:55,520 waste to drive but it's a warning that 855 00:30:59,509 --> 00:30:57,039 you are and that's and that's the july 856 00:31:02,950 --> 00:31:01,669 hi jared hayworth i'm a guest of nasa 857 00:31:04,389 --> 00:31:02,960 social and i'm a photographer with 858 00:31:06,149 --> 00:31:04,399 wehadtoday.com 859 00:31:08,230 --> 00:31:06,159 this is a question for hans looking down 860 00:31:09,590 --> 00:31:08,240 the road a little bit to the reusable 861 00:31:11,110 --> 00:31:09,600 first stage once the landing legs have 862 00:31:13,590 --> 00:31:11,120 been proven you're ready to start 863 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:13,600 landing on the on land again 864 00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:14,640 where are you going to actually set 865 00:31:17,430 --> 00:31:16,240 these stages down this particularly 866 00:31:19,830 --> 00:31:17,440 thinking about something like a falcon 867 00:31:22,310 --> 00:31:19,840 heavy reusable where you have you know 868 00:31:23,190 --> 00:31:22,320 up to three stages coming back home 869 00:31:24,549 --> 00:31:23,200 that's going to be a particular 870 00:31:26,710 --> 00:31:24,559 challenge that's true um we're looking 871 00:31:28,710 --> 00:31:26,720 right now at landing sites um 872 00:31:30,710 --> 00:31:28,720 we we had a couple 873 00:31:32,149 --> 00:31:30,720 but we need we need to still evaluate 874 00:31:33,909 --> 00:31:32,159 exactly what's the best landing site 875 00:31:35,590 --> 00:31:33,919 here at the cape or yeah at the cape 876 00:31:36,870 --> 00:31:35,600 basically 877 00:31:38,389 --> 00:31:36,880 sorry you are still thinking somewhere 878 00:31:41,269 --> 00:31:38,399 here along the east coast somewhere on 879 00:31:42,549 --> 00:31:41,279 the florida coastline perhaps okay 880 00:31:44,630 --> 00:31:42,559 okay i think we'll take one more 881 00:31:46,549 --> 00:31:44,640 question and wrap it up go ahead please 882 00:31:48,549 --> 00:31:46,559 i am ian clought from the nasa social 883 00:31:50,470 --> 00:31:48,559 group and airlinereporter.com the 884 00:31:51,990 --> 00:31:50,480 question for spacex actually related to 885 00:31:55,190 --> 00:31:52,000 jared's question when you're bringing 886 00:31:56,950 --> 00:31:55,200 stages back have plans been started on 887 00:31:58,950 --> 00:31:56,960 how much airspace and ground area will 888 00:32:00,870 --> 00:31:58,960 have to be cleared for these tests and 889 00:32:01,909 --> 00:32:00,880 then how much will that come down when 890 00:32:04,389 --> 00:32:01,919 it gets too 891 00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:04,399 operational right so that's basically a 892 00:32:08,950 --> 00:32:07,120 question to to arrange safety um we 893 00:32:11,509 --> 00:32:08,960 we're basically um providing data for 894 00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:11,519 the analysis and then range safety will 895 00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:13,440 tell us how much space we need 896 00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:14,880 we believe it's about the same as what 897 00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:16,080 you need for 898 00:32:20,710 --> 00:32:18,480 a rocket going out 899 00:32:22,149 --> 00:32:20,720 coming back is a particular challenge 900 00:32:23,350 --> 00:32:22,159 but at the same time this stage is 901 00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:23,360 pretty empty 902 00:32:29,669 --> 00:32:25,760 so it's a safe state 903 00:32:31,830 --> 00:32:29,679 safe stage to come back basically 904 00:32:33,350 --> 00:32:31,840 okay uh do uh do you have any closing 905 00:32:34,789 --> 00:32:33,360 remarks 906 00:32:36,789 --> 00:32:34,799 again i would just say again 907 00:32:38,710 --> 00:32:36,799 congratulations to spacex on just a 908 00:32:39,909 --> 00:32:38,720 wonderful day today and tremendous 909 00:32:41,750 --> 00:32:39,919 preparation 910 00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:41,760 it's also fun for me to be down here in 911 00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:44,960 florida i got to go over and see orion 912 00:32:48,950 --> 00:32:47,120 get in testing over in the onc building 913 00:32:50,870 --> 00:32:48,960 they did their first sine wave sweep of 914 00:32:52,710 --> 00:32:50,880 the multi-vibration test of the orion 915 00:32:55,029 --> 00:32:52,720 capsule and they just completed all 916 00:32:57,190 --> 00:32:55,039 their avionics testing and power up so 917 00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:57,200 it's pretty exciting to see that vehicle 918 00:33:00,470 --> 00:32:58,720 come together that first beyond low 919 00:33:02,070 --> 00:33:00,480 earth orbit vehicle over in the onc 920 00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:02,080 building and if you get a chance you 921 00:33:05,430 --> 00:33:03,519 need to go over and see the vehicle as 922 00:33:06,710 --> 00:33:05,440 it goes through these next couple stages 923 00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:06,720 over the next couple months getting 924 00:33:10,549 --> 00:33:08,799 ready for the december launch so heat 925 00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:10,559 shield addition and putting it on top of 926 00:33:13,509 --> 00:33:12,000 the service module and looking at a 927 00:33:15,669 --> 00:33:13,519 launch abort system it's a pretty 928 00:33:17,190 --> 00:33:15,679 amazing spacecraft and it's fun for me 929 00:33:19,190 --> 00:33:17,200 as an engineer to get a chance to go see 930 00:33:22,070 --> 00:33:19,200 hardware again and get out of washington 931 00:33:23,750 --> 00:33:22,080 so this is an ultimately great visit for 932 00:33:25,430 --> 00:33:23,760 me down here i got to see our hardware 933 00:33:28,149 --> 00:33:25,440 beyond low earth orbit and i got to see 934 00:33:29,750 --> 00:33:28,159 a launch so it's a double win and a 935 00:33:32,149 --> 00:33:29,760 great weekend and a great start to the 936 00:33:34,870 --> 00:33:32,159 easter holiday so thanks to the ksc team 937 00:33:37,110 --> 00:33:34,880 again in the spacex team thank you 938 00:33:39,029 --> 00:33:37,120 yeah and and for me i'm i'm really happy 939 00:33:40,389 --> 00:33:39,039 that dragon is 940 00:33:42,149 --> 00:33:40,399 safe in orbit and 941 00:33:44,230 --> 00:33:42,159 on its way to the station 942 00:33:47,110 --> 00:33:44,240 i'm really looking forward to 943 00:33:50,389 --> 00:33:47,120 birthing at the station and uh and again 944 00:33:51,269 --> 00:33:50,399 also a great easter weekend 945 00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:51,279 all right 946 00:33:56,389 --> 00:33:54,320 uh thank you hans um the next uh plan 947 00:33:59,509 --> 00:33:56,399 televised event for spacex 3 is the 948 00:34:01,269 --> 00:33:59,519 grapple on sunday morning at about 7 14 949 00:34:04,230 --> 00:34:01,279 a.m with nasa television coverage 950 00:34:05,669 --> 00:34:04,240 beginning at 5 45 a.m between now and 951 00:34:07,509 --> 00:34:05,679 then you can keep track of all the 952 00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:07,519 activities that are happening by going 953 00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:14,710 spacex and we'll conclude with a replay 954 00:34:33,669 --> 00:34:17,520 of today's falcon 9 and dragon launch 955 00:34:33,679 --> 00:34:38,310 one 956 00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:41,430 and liftoff of the falcon 9 rocket and 957 00:34:45,669 --> 00:34:42,560 dragon 958 00:34:47,669 --> 00:34:45,679 spacex 3 is underway 959 00:34:50,310 --> 00:34:47,679 an american commercial spacecraft 960 00:34:52,550 --> 00:34:50,320 launching from u.s soil makes a special 961 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:52,560 delivery of new science and technology